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Info-Mac Digest             Fri,  5 Feb 93       Volume 11 : Issue 29

Today's Topics:

      [*] Codar ocean surface currents movie
      [*] info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt
      [*] NuVista+ Drivers
      [*] Scrapz 1.2 DA
      [*] Sonnet Folio 1.0
      2 HD in Mac II (A)
      2 questions about RAM and SIMMs (Q)
      650MB Magnetoopticals disks (Q)
      [Q] Can you turn an internal HD into external?
      accented characters
      Advice on upgrading a Plus
      After Dark 2.0x Updater
      Amer Heritage Dictionary
      Back-ups
      Bogas isn't dead yet
      CD-ROM weirdness (c)
      CD-ROM Weirdness (R)
      Color Scanner opinions sought-Info-Mac Digest V11 #28
      Cords With A Charge
      Crippled 68LC040 machines
      Darkside retrieval (A)
      DataClub (2 msgs)
      DataClub Source or Alternative (A)
      Displaying PostScript
      Es tut mir leide!
      external hard drive
      FDHD Floppy (C)
      Floppy Disk Sharing (Q)
      HD partitioning advice sought
      HELP!! Choosing IW and printouts go to LW
      Help Wanted
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #28 (3 msgs)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #28 Slide scanner add-on (A)
      Installer and File Sharing Conflict
      Jasmine Drives
      Jasmine drives (A)
      Jasmine drives (R)
      List Manager programming (Q)
      Looking for old issues of Inside Hypercard
      Mac II misformats floppies
      MacLPR
      MacsBug
      Macsbug Usefulness to Non-Programmers
      MacX color allocation problems?
      Mathimatica [12 x 12]~(-1) Problem - Explanation
      Matrix inversion in Mathematica
      Matrix inversion in Mathematica (A)
      Matrix Inversions in Mathematica
      Network Mystery Problems
      New Claris Translators
      Partition doesn't mount... (Q)
      Partitioning
      PB170 Charging & Battery Problem
      Previous distribution problem
      Privacy Rights Information (Q)
      publish-subscribe questions
      Scully is Gone [C]
      Silly Sound Request
      SoftPC Question
      SPELL TEACHING PROGRAMS  (Q)
      Strip accented characters for email? (A)
      stylewriter grayscale ?
      StyleWriter II drivers
      System 7 vs 6.7 (Q)
      Teachtext & MsWord (Opening PICT Files)
      Thanks(HPDeskWriter Drivers)
      Vax/VMS help
      Where is ad updater? (Q)
      Why you need an FPU
      WorldScript?? [A]

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 10:06:13 PST
From: Bill Lipa <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Codar ocean surface currents movie

This file was previously available on sumex but got deleted, probably in the
primitive days before the 3.5Gb drive.

In my off-hours, I consult for Codar Ocean Sensors, a company that produces
radar systems which create maps of ocean currents over a wide area, without
any moving parts or equipment in the water. Enclosed is a movie of the ocean
currents in Monterey Bay last summer.

Some people have asked how I created this movie. I wrote my own customized
program to do it using the information in the QuickTime Developer's Kit.

Bill Lipa

[Archived as /info-mac/art/qt/codar-ocean-currents.hqx; 395K]

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 23:50:02 -0800
From: Eric Rosen <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt

This is the Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list for comp.sys.mac.comm

This list of frequently asked questions and answers is intended to help
reduce the number of "often asked questions" that make the rounds here
in comp.sys.mac.comm. Since comp.sys.mac.comm is intended as a forum to
discuss telecommunication (and related issues) that are specific to the
Macintosh, most questions about modems, telecommunications in general,
and other non-Macintosh specific communication questions are not listed
here. The proper newsgroup for such questions is usually comp.dcom.modems.

This list is posted periodically (about once a month) to the Usenet
groups comp.sys.mac.comm, news.answers, and comp.answers. The FAQ can be
retrieved via anonymous FTP from the following sites:

        Site                 Directory                File(s)   {Parts}
 ----------------------- ----------------------------
 -------------------------
 rascal.ics.utexas.edu            mac/faq                communications.FAQ
 sumex-aim.stanford.edu        info-mac/report
 comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt
 pit-manager.mit.edu     pub/usenet/comp.sys.mac.comm   c.s.m.c_FAQ_[1_4] {4}
 mac.archive.umich.edu     mac/misc/documentation       compsysmaccommfaq.txt

It also available in the Macintosh SIG on Delphi for Delphi members.

This FAQ is purely a volunteer effort. Although every effort has been
made to insure that answers are as complete and accurate as possible,
no guarantee is implied or intended. The editor and contributors have
developed this FAQ as a service to Usenet. We hope you find it useful.

Please send your corrections, questions, and comments to the editor,
Eric Rosen, at [e-mail].

         SHARE THIS INFORMATION FREELY AND IN GOOD FAITH.
         DO NOT DISTRIBUTE MODIFIED VERSIONS OF THIS FAQ.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt; 112K]

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Date: 3 Feb 1993 18:20:01 U
From: "Tom Ransom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] NuVista+ Drivers

This file contains the latest (12/18/92) drivers for the Truevision NuVista+
Videographics card. Included in the file are:
    Control Panels
     CloseUp
     Blender
     MasterKeys
     ChromaKey
     Vidi/o
    Drivers
     NuVista+ Drivers
     SetUp Application

| Tom Ransom, Mkt Mgr, Video Prod.  | [e-mail]  CIS:72000,107  |
| Truevision, Inc.                  |                                        |
| 7340 Shadeland Station            |----------------------------------------|
| Indianapolis, IN 46256-3919       | [phone] [w]      575-7700 [Fax] |

[Archived as /info-mac/util/nuvista-plus-drivers-2-93.hqx; 399K]

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 16:30:06 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Lars Sundstr|m)
Subject: [*] Scrapz 1.2 DA

Scrapz 1.2 (DA)

Replacement for Apples Scrapbook

Features

* Supports text, pictures and sound
* Resizeable window
* File Import/Export
* Partial selection of text and pictures
* Multiple scrapbooks(or groups, represented by names and icons)

Scrapz 1.2 is freeware

[Archived as /info-mac/da/scrapz-12.hqx; 47K]

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Date: 03 Feb 1993 18:51:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Sonnet Folio 1.0

Sonnet-Folio is a Hypertext presentation of Shakespeare's Sonnets,
based on the text distributed by the Gutenberg Project.

It will display sonnets by number or by opening line, search for words
or phrases, and generate an index for a selected word or phrase.
Sonnets and indices can be printed, or exported as text files.

Sonnet-Folio uses the ResText and ListSelect XFCNs by F. Rinaldi,
and the SearchPlus XFCN by Jim Parshall, Dome Software, plus a couple
of portraits courtesy of David Wellestood and  Mark Zimmermann.

     [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/card/sonnet-folio-10.hqx; 123K]

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 17:43:26 PST
From: Dave Leiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: 2 HD in Mac II (A)

>sorry if this is a FAQ but is there any way to install 2 Hard Drives inside
>a Mac II?

I have installed 2 hard disks in several Mac II's by using the space where the
second floppy normally goes. It requires drilling a few holes in a floppy
bracket but works fine. I got the internal SCSI chain cable and power splitter
at a local computer hobby type store. I definitely would not recommend this to
the faint of heart and I'm sure it's not officially sanctioned by anyone, but
it works for me.

--Dave

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 16:32:07 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Anibal Mazzuca)
Subject: 2 questions about RAM and SIMMs (Q)

Dear Netters,

1) could I know the size and speed of the SIMMs throught their composite
chips? For example my Mac has one SIMM with 8 chips with the following label:


        ____________________
        AAAIM300J       -08
        NMBS            9202
        ____________________


and 4 RAM chips soldered in the mother board with:


        ____________________
        TI              -80
        TM54400DJ
        HBP     1452    8E
        ____________________


Well, I know the SIMM has 1mb and the 4-RAM-chips have 2mb and I suppose the
"-08" and "-80" indicate 80 ns speed but I would like to be sure of that,
i.e.
I would like to read the labels and found there all the information (size and
speed) . Is that possible ?

2) My Mac Classic II has 4 RAM chips soldered in the mother board (2mb at
all). Supposing that the RAM soldered have 80ns speed, could I extend the RAM
memory with SIMMs of faster speed than the ones soldered (for example with
SIMMs of 70 ns) ? does it cause some conflict ?

Thanks for the answers,

Daniel Anibal Mazzuca
Departamento de Informatica, Puc-Rio,
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

e-mail: [e-mail]


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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 14:44:22 EST
From: "A. Moiseff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 650MB Magnetoopticals disks (Q)

I am interested in recommendations for (or bad experiences with) 650MB
magneto-optical disks.  I am aware of the 3.5" drives but I already have
several 650MB disks with data.  Please respond to:
[e-mail]      THANKS.

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Date: 04 Feb 1993 20:46:07 -0700 (MST)
From: "Mark V. Flegg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Q] Can you turn an internal HD into external?

I have an old Syquest SQ555 left over from an old computer system.
It has its own box and power supply, and (last time I used it) is in good
working order.  It looks just like an internal drive, with a 50 pin dual
inline (I think that's it) connector on the back.

I understand that I need a special software driver for the drive, but what
else do I need, specifically with regards to connecting it to the scsi port
on my mac?

Mark Flegg  -- [e-mail]  OR asmvf@asuacad

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 10:18:40 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: accented characters

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> I am teaching a French scholar working for a semester here in the
> States how to use email. He wants to compose his messages in
> (U.S.) Word 5.0 then save them as text for use with our email
> system (UCLA's IBM mainframe-based BEN). He wants to incorporate
> passages of his own writing in his messages, but they include
> accented characters, which the mail system chokes on.
>
> What we really want to do is replace accented characters with
> their un-accented counterparts. I have downloaded Add/Strip, and
> it looks like this might do the trick for him, although it would
> involve additional steps. Is there any easier way to do this?

What you really need is Nisus and my ascii_827 macro, based on Ian
Feldman's ascii_827 (8-bit to 7-bit) standard for replacing accented
characters and other special characters with their close facsimiles
without accents. The closest you could come in Word would be a massive
QuicKeys macro that did all the Find/Replace actions for you...

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Thu,  4 Feb 93 16:53:39 PST
From: Kevin Purcell (Rho) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Advice on upgrading a Plus

A friend of mine has been using the MicroMac MultiSpeed accelerator
>From Mac Upgrade Specialists on his Plus. This is a 25Mhz 68030
acclerator for $300 (no FPU). Its a lot cheaper than the going rate.
with Novy software. At this price (for a 6 times speedup) it seems to
be a worthwhile upgrade for my aging Plus, especially when I have to
wait for THINK C to chug through a compile/load cycle.

Anybody else using one of these boards? What is their reliability like
(my friend has had an occasionaly problem that need to open the case an
reseat the Killy clip)? Does it use a 68EC030 or the real thing (I'm
not really worried about VM -- I can't afford 4Mbyte SIMMs)?

Any suggestions in general in putting an accelerator in a Plus? I'm
planning to do the "video and PSU" mods -- replace the dubious
capacitors and maybe the LOPT too. How does the Plus power supply stand
the extra load? My Plus already runs hotter than I'd like it too so I
need to add a fan (suggestions? low cost is paramount!). What luck have
people had adding internal small fans (not scared of the soldering
iron) or the piezo-type "fans" (as described in Larry Pina's book)?

Finally I'll have to convert the Plus motherboard from 1Mbyte SIMMs
back to 256Ks -- I need the details of which resistor(s) to solder up.
I've done RAM upgrades on lots of machines from the SE upwards, but
never upgraded the memory in a Plus!

Any suggestions welcome (yes, I'd rather have a Quadra 950 ... but I
don't have the money and this Plus and 100Mbyte disk only cost me $300).

Kevin Purcell                           X E N O L I T H
[e-mail]                  318 10th Avenue E #C7
[phone] x14710                   Seattle, WA 98102
                    [phone]

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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 02:56:48 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: After Dark 2.0x Updater

Hi,

Would you please remove the After Dark 2.0x Updater?  There's a problem with
it and the password feature of After Dark.  I just posted a note about it to
comp.sys.mac.system.  Would you also include it in the Info-Mac Digest?

Thank you VERY much,

Jim Tso
Macintosh Tech Support
Berkeley Systems, Inc.

Here's the text of the note I posted to comp.sys.mac.system:

Hi,

I would like to clear up some of the confusion surrounding the After Dark 2.0x
Updater.  Some of you have downloaded the Updater from Sumex or wherever else
and encountered problems with the password feature.

The problem is After Dark acts as if there's a password already entered,
except that it's not yours.  The workaround for this problem is to install a
fresh copy of After Dark 2.0 (any version) and then run the Updater program
BEFORE entering a password.  We changed the way After Dark handles its
password to support WorldScript.

A fixed version of the updater is available from AppleLink, America Online and
Compuserve.  This version will remove any existing password and ask you for a
new one.  Unfortunately, this new version does not have a version number.
Since we maintain the forums on these boards, we were able to pull the problem
version and replace it with a fixed one in a couple of days.  The fixed
version has a creation date of January 28, 1993 and a modified date of January
29, 1993.

If you're a sysop or system administrator please remove all old versions of
the After Dark Updater, including the 2.0v and 2.0w updaters.

We will be releasing a new AD 2.0x updater, version 1.0.2, in a couple of
days.  A list of bug fixes and feature changes is at the bottom of this note.
You can always get the latest version of After Dark sending us your original
disk or calling Customer Service if you're registered.  Our address and phone
number is:

Berkeley Systems, Inc.
2095 Rose St.
Berkeley, CA 94709
Attn:  Mac Upgrades
[phone]

I deeply apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.  I will
notify Sumex and ask them to remove the updater.  Unfortunately,
Berkeley Systems does not have direct access to the Internet so uploading
version 1.0.2 of the updater will take a little time.

Please direct any questions to:  [e-mail] or
[e-mail] or 75300.1376.compuserve.com

Please don't send email to this address, it's my personal account.  You can
flame me on company time : )

Take care,

Jim Tso
Macintosh Tech Support
Berkeley Systems, Inc.


AFTER DARK 2.0x Release Note

BUG FIXES (from 2.0v to 2.0x)

-  Fixed a problem where the After Dark control panel would quit if you had
the password feature activated
and your monitor set to thousands of colors.
-  Fixed an occasional problem where SystemIQ might prevent After Dark from
going to sleep if you had several file servers mounted on the Desktop.
-  Fixed a problem with Fish! displaying screen garbage along the sea floor.
This only seemed to happen on Macintosh Quadras running under System 7.1.
-  Fixed a problem where Fish! crashes if  given a very small MultiModule
region.
-  Fixed a problem where Fish! crashes if it's completely covered in
MultiModule.
-  Fixed a problem where Logo would crash if you clicked on the scroll bar
with
an empty scrapbook.
-  Fixed a problem where Zot would freeze if set to the narrowest region
possible in MultiModule.

NEW FEATURES/CHANGES

-  The After Dark control panel now has SystemIQ activity monitor turned ON by
default.
-  There's an option in the control panel to mute sound for all modules.
-  There's an option in the control panel to not display "Please Wake Up"
messages.
-  Hitting the Control key will turn off the sound when After Dark is on the
screen, even with the password activated.
-  The control panel has a niftier icon.
-  Randomizer now has "All" and "None" options for selecting which modules to
use.
-  Randomizer has much longer times available between modules, up to an hour.
-  The Slide Show module will now load the CLUT for a picture if it has one.
-  Slide Show now supports QuickTime JPEG images and Kodak PhotoCD pictures.
-  Slide Show also supports aliases under System 7.  Pictures no longer have
to be in the Slide Show folder.
-  Slide Show also has an option to display all the pictures in a folder or
only just one.

**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.

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Date: Fri,  5 Feb 1993 12:34 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Amer Heritage Dictionary

Has anyone used the American Heritage Dictionary for the Mac?  The advertising
I received on it made it sound really useful (don't they all, though?), but
I'd
like to hear from someone who has actually tried it out.  Thanks for the
help.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 00:14:38 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Back-ups

Does anyone know of an application, shareware or other, that will compare
two disks (folders) and make sure there is a copy of any file on both
disks?

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:03:57 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Ian Chai)
Subject: Bogas isn't dead yet

Not long ago, I said that I had Studio Session but ran it on my old mac
because Bogas was out of business and it didn't work on Sys7. But today
I just got this message:

>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Bogas isn't dead yet

Ian, Bogas is alive and well, please broadcast this:  Also, send me your
snail address and I'll have them send you a free upgrade.

The phone is 415 592 5129 fax [phone]

Studio Session is alive and well, supports individual track dynamics (for
faster machines, yet still runs on 512K).  There's a 22HKz version almost
out the door which sounds more than twice as good.

Jam Session, the interactive music game, is also alive, in color and runs
on all current machines.  It now has licensed music, such as songs
"originally performed" by the Dead, B-52's, Santana, Peter Gabriel, etc.
etc.

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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 93 21:38:45 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CD-ROM weirdness (c)

[e-mail](Peter Goedtkindt) said:

> The problem : when file sharing is on, one cannot unmount a disk,
> even when it is not shared. I have this problem since sys. 7 came
> out, and up to now I don't have a solution. This applies to
> Syquest, CD-rom and magneto-optical devices. Probably also for
> shared hard disk partitions, but I didn't tried this. The really
> ugly thing about this is that, when you specify the disk (in the
> finder file menu) not to be shared, you still cannot unmount it in
> the finder. System 7 is great, but the Apple folks that constructed
> the file sharing code probably never had heard about removables.
> Please change this in 7.2.... You can eject a diskette, so why not
> a non-shared disk?

How about utility like Silverlining? It let you mount disk/partition
volume any time. What I have done is mount the volumes after I turn
on file sharing. So volumes mounted before turning on file sharing
will be shared while volume mounted after that won't be shared and
could be unmounted at any time. Not a perfect solution, but it
work.

Liu

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 15:46:18 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CD-ROM Weirdness (R)

When you boot up using System 7 and file sharing and you have a
CD-ROM in the drive, one of the "features" is that System 7 won't let
you dismount (eject) the disc.  For other situations when this
occurs, see the latest issue of MacUser.

Neil E. Mickelson
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 18:30:47 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Color Scanner opinions sought-Info-Mac Digest V11 #28

>
>Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 14:51:18 -0500
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Color Scanner opinions sought
>
>comp.sys.mac.addicts,
>
>Has anyone out there in the ether been in the market for a color scanner
>recently?  My wife's office is looking for one and right now they're
comparing
>the UMAX UC1200s UltraVision (What a name!) with the various Microtek and
Afga
>Color Scanners.  Any advice/opinions/recommendations will be appreciated.
>-- Glenn Fink
>[e-mail]
>

Our multimedia lab has a LaCie colour scanner (It think it is called a
silverscanner II, but it might just be the regular one). It's great, our
Lab director loved it so much he bought one for home as well.  We bought it
at MacWorld Boston directly at a very good price, and it came bundled with
OCR and Photoshop.  They usually have adds in the back of MacUser and
MacWorld.

BTW La Cie is owned by Quantum.

Cheers,

Donal Lynch
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 08:35:40 CST
From: "Daniel V. Blystone"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cords With A Charge

This is a letter to anyone who thinks that a power cord will not hold a
charge.  Try plugging one in and stick a paper clip in those holes.  The
cord that is connected to a 115 line will conduct the power from the wall
to the end of the cord.

If you still don't think this is possible then get two wires and stick
them in to the holes in the wall and string them out about 50 feet or so
and touch the ends of the wires.  YOW! what was that feeling that just
went through your body?  POWER!!

So in conclusion,  YES a cord will hold the same ammount of charge that
the electric company is willing to deliver to your outlet.  Providing that
you pay your bill.

Please remember to leave electricity to your trained and licensed
electrician.  Also don't try this stunt at home.


****************************************************
Daniel Blystone    [[e-mail]]

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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 21:04:01 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Crippled 68LC040 machines

Since the subject of crippled machines has come up again, here is my $0.02
on the subject. First, I can hardly agree more with Alan Hewat, that:

"this was a marketing decision, not based on engineering or manufacturing
cost.  Apple wants to continue to sell machines for $4-5K while extending
their user base with cheaper machines, which they then have to cripple.
When you have a monopoly you can get away with this....
LC040 stands for Lowest Common denominator, not Low Cost."

Indeed. The worst part of this is that apple and motorola have
(shame, shame!) taken a page from Intel, who originated this concept of
selling crippled version of their cpu's. Intel did it to undercut their
clone competitors by selling a "486SX" for less than an AMD 386/387 and
then having the nerve to contend that the "486SX" is BETTER! It isn't.
These folks also brought you the DX2, wherein the CPU talks to the world at
half it's internal clockrate. Apple copied that into the pathetic VX, with
it's 16 mhz motherboard and 32 mhz 030. It is well documented that the VX
is slower than the IIci, the best Mac that Apple ever discontinued.

Let's be real clear that the use of the LC040 is to make models
"distinguishable", not to lower costs!!! It just isn't a significant
factor in the TOTAL price of the machine. These artificial distinctions are
maintained by apple to keep the prices of the real 040 machines high.

The worst part of it is that to change a 68LC040 into a real 68040, you
have to replace the chip, not just add a coprocessor.

OK, before the flames come in: Apple can certainly charge whatever they
want to for the damn things. Just don't keep up the charade that there is
some "technical" reason for all this nonsense, cause there ain't. BTW, it
is true that a 50 mhz 030/882 benchmarks dead even with a Quadra 700 or
900, and folks you *can* get those for reasonable prices from 3rd parties.

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 09:51:31 EST
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Darkside retrieval (A)

On Thu, 4 Feb, Mark London wrote:

>I still have not been able to successfully binhex dark side 3.2.  Has
>anyone been able to do it using binhex v4.0?

It isn't a Darkside problem Mark. Binhex is a very iffy program to use.
Dartmouth's excellent Fetch has no problem de-binhexing the file during
the download. Stuffit has no trouble de-binhexing the hqx file after
a straight download.

My recommendation? Trash Binhex 4.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 17:39:56 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Benjamin J. Turner)
Subject: DataClub

    I used to use DataClub, and since I thought it was a pretty nice
product (though I no longer use it), I have tried to keep up on it.
Unfortunately, I no longer get my MacWeek fix, so I'm not exactly sure
as to its whereabouts, but I do know that it was bought by Novell (or
was it Sitka...), who has been doing at least some work on it, and
will apparently continue to do so. Sorry, I don't have a number for
them. Anyone else out there know more about this fine program?
        Benjamin John Turner, <[e-mail]>

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 09:39:08 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: DataClub

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Does anyone know where to obtain what used to be called DataClub?

Novell bought IBS a while back, if that helps in your search... Try
calling Novell and asking them...

Good luck.

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 21:56:19 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: DataClub Source or Alternative (A)

Kee Nethery asked about DataClub in v11#28.  I had occasion to call
their tech support last week, and they confirmed that DataClub is
still alive and updating to version 3 (they think) within a few
months.

DataClub was purchased by Novell about a year ago, but is still
supported by the International Business Software folks who originally
wrote/supported it.  If you call Novell, be prepared to explain what
you want to talk about; not everyone there knows about DataClub.
So far, the tech support is still free (whew!); not every Novell
product is.

I've been using DataClub for nearly two years.  It basically performs
as advertised, with a few quirks you might expect from any unusual
networking scheme.  In a comparison test last year in one of the
major Mac mags (don't remember which, files are at home), it was rated
somewhat better than AppleShare (v2, I think).  My tech support call
was to ask about use on partitioned hard drives.  Answer = few are
currently supported by DataClub v2 or 2.0.1 (current).  "To be fixed"
in next version.  Nice people!

As for who sells it, try the usual suspects.  In my at-work set of
catalogs, I found it only in the Mac's Place catalog (Summer/Fall 92).
Product numbers
    4426  1-user, $118
    3852  3-user, $178
    3851 10-user, $498
    4427  Elite, $938 (dedicated server machine, like AppleShare)

I recommend calling the other big mail-order people.  They may have
close-outs.  Don't get the 1-user unless you've already got it and
just need to add a user.

You can reach Novell support at 800-NETWARE.  They might just connect
you to the DataClub people.

"Just a (mostly) satisfied user"

Glenn Schaffer
Army Targets Office, Redstone Arsenal, AL
The material contained in this message is not an official view
of the US Army or official endorsement of any product mentioned.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 15:26:35 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Displaying PostScript

G Marsden (PG) <[e-mail]> writes:

> Does anyone know of a way to reverse engineer a file of postscript
> graphics back into a pretty diagram on my Mac screen? ( I am
> working with the Mathematica kernel which produces graphics
> in a postscript file and I need some way to display them ).

What you need is a PostScript interpreter.  There are several available.
I have Freedom of the Press, from CAI, which lets me preview PS graphics
on the screen or output to a printer.  There is also the Mac GhostScript
port (available at sumex-aim), which might do the trick (I haven't spent
too much time trying to use it).

Of course, the best way to view MMa graphis is using the MMa front end.
I am unsure how you managed to get a Mac kernel without a front-end, as
they are not sold separately.  (In version 2.1, the kernel and the front
end are a single file, but one can also get a separate copy of the kernel
alone for $10 extra.)

The free "MathReader" utility from Wolfram might also do the trick, as it
lets you read MMa notebooks, assuming you can get the bare kernel to
create a noteook.

Regards.



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:28 WET
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Es tut mir leide!

Mea Culpa! Or, as we say in English, I eat crow. (Yum. Tasty. Been eating
it a lot lately.) To put it more understandably, I have been twitted by a
few readers who took exception to my opinion in 11-28 that the 827...
Extension of BBEdit mistransliterated umlautted characters by adding an "e"
to them. Turns out this is the accepted way of handling umlauts in German
when transliterated, and I apology profusely. Ich kann nicht das Deutsche
sprechen.

But, then again, the questioner was looking for a way to strip accents from
French text. As Fred Swartz mentioned in a private note, although adding an
e works for umlautted German characters, it "screws up every other language
that uses the umlaut/diaresis/trema." So maybe I was right after all.

Jeff Needleman <[e-mail]> (qui parle francais comme une vache espagnol)

------------------------------

Date: 05 Feb 1993 11:38:14 -0600 (CST)
From: BILL SIMPSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: external hard drive

I am going to buy an external hard drive for my SE/30.
I have a couple of questions:
1. Is there some change of scuzzy standards (1 vs 2)?  If so, should I get
drive with scuzzy 2?
2. Can you recommend a brand?  Capacity somewhere around 100-200 Mb.

Thanks very much for your help,
Bill Simpson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:11:00 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: FDHD Floppy (C)

re: HD floppy drive for older machines:
>As far as I know, Apple is still supplying the FDHD solution to SE users,
>but if they have discontinued it, You can still get Applied Engineering's
>solution.  It is an external 1.44 Mb drive that will even work on a Mac
>Plus.
>
When I inquired about this problem, my local experts told me that although
an external 1.44 Mb drive would work on my Mac Plus, it could only be used
to read 800K and 400K disks because the Plus does not have the ROMs to
support 1.44 MB disks.  Better check this out before investing in a FDHD
Floppy.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 17:49:05 PST
From: Dave Leiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Floppy Disk Sharing (Q)

Does anyone know of a hack to allow a floppy drive to be shared over System 7
File Sharing?

I have a Mac II without, and PowerBook with, a HD floppy drive. For the few
times I need it, I hate to spend several hundred dollars on a new floppy for
the Mac II. Sharing the Powerbook drive would do the trick without the extra
steps of loading the files onto the hard disk. TIA.

--Dave

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 12:38:40 +0900 (KST)
From: [e-mail] (Jeong-hyun Kim)
Subject: HD partitioning advice sought

Hello, netters.
I'm gonna get a new 120MB internal HD for my PB 170.
My question is, what is the best partitioning setting for the 120MB?
It looks like a silly question, but since I've never used over 40MB,
I'm not even sure whether I need partitioning or not. :)
I need your opinions. Thank you in advance.

Jeong-hyun Kim, KAIST, Korea

------------------------------

Date: Fri,  5 Feb 1993 15:35 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: HELP!! Choosing IW and printouts go to LW

I run a small lab with Mac II LCs running System 7.  I use FolderBolt as a
security set-up.  When I select the ImageWriter from the Chooser menu and
select the appropriate printer, my printouts are directed to the LaserWriter
Plus.  Sound familiar??  Please reply to me.

TIA,
Paul
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 4 Feb 1993 19:15:51 U
From: "James Tepper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help Wanted

               Subject:                               Time:6:59 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Help Wanted                            Date:2/4/93

Does anyone out there know anything about a mysterious condition that causes
Macs to pause or hesitate until the mouse is clicked or a key is pressed?
I've
got a Quadra 950 that has been getting slower and slower for the past several
months.  There are (very) noticeable pauses during context switches, and even
within applications.  They are quite frequent.  The pauses can be up to a few
seconds long, and can always be ended by pressing the mouse button or hitting
a
key.  The Quadra has 24 Meg RAM, and the hesitation happens even when inits
are
disabled by depressing the shift key on start-up.  They seem to occur inside
all applications.  I have re-installed System 7.01 a couple of times, and have
run with and without Tuner 1.1.1.  I'm connected to an Ethernet LAN, but no
one
else is affected.   I have file sharing on, but the problem is happens even
when no one is connected.  There is an SCSI CD-ROM, but the problem happens
regardless of whether the machine is booted with the ROM  player on or off.
Any suggestions gratefully appreciated.  I don't have an info-mac account, but
you can E-Mail me directly at [e-mail].

Thanks.

Jim Tepper

------------------------------

Date: 05 Feb 1993 13:12:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #28

Has anyone heard of problems with running a IIci on its side.  In the last
two weeks, I have had to replace the disk drive twice.  Any comments,
similair situations, etc. would greatly be appreciated.
Dave.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:17:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #28

Gary Gray writes:
   >
   >I just bought an old Jasmine drive (no letters telling me I'm
   >a fool please) that I can't get Drive7 to recognize.  I am
   >able to mount with SCSI Probe (with effort---two clicks on
   >"Mount" and then one on "Update").  Until I mount it with
   >SCSI probe it shows up in the SCSI Probe window as a bullet
   >meaning no data.  In addition, Disk First Aid will recognize
   >it immediately and Apple HD SC Setup will not (I realize that
   >I shouldn't use HD SC Setup with non-Apple drives).
   >
   >Questions:
   >
   >(1) Does anyone have experience with this.  I wanted to
   >    reformat the Jasmine with Drive7 to work with System 7
   >    and an SE/30 since it used to be on a Plus (bad
   >    interleaves, etc.).
   >
   >(2) I understand that someone other than Jasmine (obviously)
   >    is now repairing/supporting old Jasmine drives.  Does
   >    anyone have a name and a phone number of who that might
   >    be?
   >
   >The drive is a Jasmine DirectDrive 45, about 3 years old
   >(after repair by Jasmine).  The SE/30 has an internal drive
   >also.  We tried a different SCSI cable and that didn't help
   >either.
   >
Gosh, and I thought I was the only one to get suckered by Jasmine ;)
Jasmine distributed the DirectDrive with a cdev/init file that was
supposed to "improve its performance".  I know that I often had
trouble accessing the drive without it.  The file is part of the
"Jasmine Driveware" software that came with the drive.  It pre-dates
System 7, so I don't know about compatibility.  I can post a copy of
the Jasmine Driveware onto the info-mac archive if anyone (especially
you, Gary) wants it.

I had to send my DD20 back to Jasmine twice, and they finally just
swapped me for a new one, so I wouldn't trust one that had been
through their repair facility.  I don't know of anyone who will
repair them, anymore.

Jim Hudson <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:30:32 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #28

Dow Palmer writes:
   >
   >A question that may have a simple answer.  We're responsible for a school
   >network of Classic II, LCII, ImageWriters, and DeskWriters.  While we have
   >a server, the problem concernins printer sharing.  The building is wired
   >with phone cable and LocalTalk connector boxes on a backbone, and properly
   >terminated at both ends (I thought).  Up until a week ago, the arrangement
   >worked fine, one could see all printers and the server from either end of
   >the network.
   >
   >Then, without warning, nothing could be reliably printed. The server would
   >allow a remote device to attach, and then fail, saying that the server
   >(which could be seen seconds earlier), failed to respond.  The only
   >printers that could be seen in the Chooser were ones near the computer we
   >were at.  I traced wiring, checked everything, and found that when I
   >inserted additional termination *in the middle* of the backbone, printers
   >and servers could again be seen anywhere.  I thought I understood the
   >concepts, but this contradicts what I thought would work.  Any ideas out
   >there about what caused it, and why the additional termination works?  I
   >could understand if we were overloaded and had had problems from the
   >start, but since it has worked for five months, why would things suddenly
   >go bad?  There are probably 80 devices attached, though not all share
   >printers.  Replacing drivers, etc. had no effect.  Thanks!
   >
This sure brings back old memories.  The problem is that you've exceeded the
maximum "run-length" for LocalTalk (by quite a bit).  The same thing happened
to us.  Our symptoms matched yours exactly: one day the network worked, and
the next it didn't.  Splitting the backbone in two and terminating both halves
solved the problem.  Putting a Farallon StarController in between the two
halves
allowed Macs in one half to print on printers in the other half.  The Star
Controller allows several (16?) of these backbones to communicate to each
other.  Farallon wants you to only put a single Mac on each port in the Star
Controller, but we found that we could put up to 25 or 30 devices on a
backbone
on each port without problems.

There are obviously other controllers besides Farallon, and I'm not pitching
their product.  We simply liked their PhoneNet connectors and bought the
controller from them.

Jim Hudson <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 08:54:26 EST
From: SDIA000 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #28 Slide scanner add-on (A)

The cheapest alternative for inputting slides in the manner you are
needing, is with the Fotovix unit . It is marketed for the computer
market by another company but it is a slide to video converter. It does
not digitize but creates an analog video signal which would have to be
imported in the same way as any other video signal. As I think about
this, it is begining to seem that if you have to buy the fotovix slide
scanner and a video input card, and image manipulation software, you may
be spending as much as you would to buy the Microtek 1850 slide scanner
of similar unit which is designed for this application and comes with
the interface and the software.

Stan Diamond
St. Lawrence Univ.
[phone]
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 09:47:02 EST
From: [e-mail] (przeslawski)
Subject: Installer and File Sharing Conflict

Just a little quaint feature I noticed while installing some new software -
file sharing must be turned off to run the installer. I've noticed this on
several software packages (MS Excel, Mac Draw Pro) and it caused me a lot of
heartburn until I traced it down.

When installing MacDrawPro, for example, the installer disk informs you to
turn off any protection INITs. (easy enough). When you select any combination
of items to install (even "Easy Install") it reads the ReadMe file off of
the disk, then says it cannot write the file. It suggests quitting, deleting
the file off the disk, and trying again.  Since the file could not be written
to the hard disk, one would assume that they mean delete the file from the
floppy. Not trusting this, I copied the ReadMe file off before deleting it.
Upon trying to install again, it informs me that although this disk has the
right name, it is not the correct disk. It then ejects the disk and wants
the "correct" one inserted.

Being inquisitive and needing MacDrawPro installed, I had to track down the
problem. I tried removing other extensions and never got it to work until
I turned File Sharing off.

I have a Quadra 700, and I had a problem (still do, in fact) that File Sharing
would cause dikette formatting to crash about a third of the time. Others
who tried this verified the problem on the 700's.

Hope this helps someone,

    Mark Przeslawski
    E.R.I.M.

------------------------------

Date: Fri,  5 Feb 1993 08:48:54 +0000
From: LTB Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jasmine Drives

I owned a Jasmine Direct Drive 20 until recently.  When I upgraded to System 7
I found the old Jasmine drivers were incompatible.  I successfully used Apple
HD SC to reformat my hard disk and ran it without problems.  My understanding
is that Apple HD Sc can be used with most any hard disk.

Alternatively, a company called Dove Technologies (I think it was Dove) was
marketing updated drivers for the Jasmine drives.

Brian Wright
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 05 Feb 1993 08:43:07 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Michael A. McGuire)
Subject: Jasmine drives (A)

>Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 22:16:38 CST
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Jasmine drives
>
>I just bought an old Jasmine drive (no letters telling me I'm
>a fool please) that I can't get Drive7 to recognize.  I am
>able to mount with SCSI Probe (with effort---two clicks on
>"Mount" and then one on "Update").  Until I mount it with
>SCSI probe it shows up in the SCSI Probe window as a bullet
>meaning no data.  In addition, Disk First Aid will recognize
>it immediately and Apple HD SC Setup will not (I realize that
>I shouldn't use HD SC Setup with non-Apple drives).
>
>Questions:
>
>(1) Does anyone have experience with this.  I wanted to
>    reformat the Jasmine with Drive7 to work with System 7
>    and an SE/30 since it used to be on a Plus (bad
>    interleaves, etc.).
>
>(2) I understand that someone other than Jasmine (obviously)
>    is now repairing/supporting old Jasmine drives.  Does
>    anyone have a name and a phone number of who that might
>    be?
>
>The drive is a Jasmine DirectDrive 45, about 3 years old
>(after repair by Jasmine).  The SE/30 has an internal drive
>also.  We tried a different SCSI cable and that didn't help
>either.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Gary L. Gray                *  Engineering Mechanics & Astronautics
>[e-mail]  *  University of Wisconsin-Madison

Gary

I am running a Jasmine 20 & a 40 (bought long ago when Jasmine was a
honored name) and an Apple 20 all under 7.1 along with the internal 80
in my PB.  Before that I was running all the same drives under 7.0.1
and 7.1 on a Plus.  The Jasmines had to be formatted with the Jasmine
Direct Drive software.  I have not been able to format them with
anything else and get them to mount but I have not tried everything.
If you need the software I can post it to info-mac.


Michael A. McGuire, :-)
[e-mail]
UTCC - User Services

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 09:27:07 EST
From: Andrew E. Scheck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jasmine drives (R)

>(1) Does anyone have experience with this.  I wanted to
>    reformat the Jasmine with Drive7 to work with System 7
>    and an SE/30 since it used to be on a Plus (bad
>    interleaves, etc.).

We have a five or six year old Jasmine 90 that I was unable to format for
System 7 until I got FWB, Inc.'s Hard Disk Tool kit (HDT). It did the job
just fine. I also used it to reformat a DirectDrive 40 that I had formatted
to work with a LaserWriter IIg and was then rendered unrecognizable by its
own utilities when I tried to use it again with my Macintosh. Later a
colleague had an HP 900+ Mb drive that he bought to attach to a NeXT that
wouldn't do a low-level format from the NeXT. I hooked it to my Mac and with
HDT I was able to do the format. I would guess that any of the disk
formatting utilities available would do the job.

Hope this helps.

Andy Scheck

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 12:36:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ian C McCall <[e-mail]>
Subject: List Manager programming (Q)

I'm trying to develop a program that uses the List Manager, despite not
having proper documentation for that Manager. I understand it's in
Inside Mac volume IV, but I can't afford that at the moment, and besides
I don't want to buy an Inside Mac before Apple have finished
re-organising them.

So - could anyone help me please? I`m trying to define a list that looks
something like this:


    ------------------------------------
    |1      Accoustic Piano           ^|
    |2      Flute                     ||
    |3      Warm Pad                  V|
    ------------------------------------

In other words, a list with just one column, and vertical scrollbar. If
it makes any difference, it will have 128 rows (0 to 127).

So far, I've managed to define the list and place the initial data into
it. What I'd now like to be able to do is retrieve that data and place
it in a Pascal-style string. If possible, I'd also like to make a second
list automatically follow the scolling of this one.r

The reason I'd like to put it in a Pascal-style string is so the user
can edit the name. At the moment, I'm having to do this via a modal
dialogue containing a single EditText field with an OK and Cancel
button. I'd prefer to be able to do this modelessly however, and would
like to implement a method similar to the Finder's renaming of files
(click on the name, it gets surrounded by a little box and then you can
edit it directly). If anyone knows how to do this, I'd really like to
know.

I'd be very grateful for any help with this, as it will be incorporated
into my final year project at University. Even if you don't know the
answer, could someone please post this message to Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer,
as I don't have posting access to Usenet. My email for any responses is

    csc345@cent1.;amcs.ac.uk


Thanks a lot.


Cheers,
    Ian

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 00:16:31 CST
From: Ken Austin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for old issues of Inside Hypercard

     I'm a music education graduate student at Louisiana State Univerity
and am working on a stack to teach basic music notation to non-music
majors.  Does anyone have any old issues of Inside Hypercard they would
be willing to pass on to me?  I will leave them to the music education
department when I graduate.   I would especially be interested in those
issues that deal with sound.       Thanx!  -Ken

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 20:30 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac II misformats floppies

We've got a Mac II which we've just noticed can't format floppy disks
correctly - basically, disks which it's formatted can't be read by other
Macs, although this Mac II can read any DD floppies (we never got a
Superdrive for it).  Does anyone know what might be causing this fault?
The floppy drive is not in fact the original as that broke a while back.
Floppies which it's formatted can't be repaired by Disk First Aid either

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 17:24:02 GMT+0900
From: [e-mail] (SUMIYA Takahiro)
Subject: MacLPR

   > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 22:54:10 GMT
   > From: [e-mail] (Jim Browne)

   > >** MacLPR DOES NOT communicate with any unix lpr-daemon.
   > >** It only works with PS printers on AppleTalk.
   >
   > Then the name should be changed.

  I wrote the original version of this program two years ago, when I
was very novice of UNIX system.  The lpr command on unix allowed me to
print both postscript and plain text file with same command.  I want
this feature on my Macintosh, so I wrote this code.  At that time, I
did not have 'daemon' idea, so I named it MacLPR without regard.

  Now I understand the name 'MacLPR' have serious conflict for unix
people.  I will rename it in next version.  Is it OK?

---
      Takahiro Sumiya ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 09:49:41 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: MacsBug

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Now, I have a question which hopefully isn't a FAQ (I couldn't find much
that
> was relevant in the archives).  I recently got a copy of MacsBug and
> installed it on my Mac; the next time my machine crashed and dropped me into
> MacsBug, I realized I didn't have the foggiest notion of what to do once I'd
> gotten there.  I consider myself a Mac power user of sorts, but have NO
> knowledge of Mac programming.

When in doubt, in any command line environment, type ?

> I guess I really have two questions:
>
> 1.  Is MacsBug of much use to one who isn't a programmer?

Absolutely.

> 2.  Does anyone know of a FAQ or manual dealing with MacsBug, which will
give
>     me some insights into how to take advantage of the program as a non-
>     programmer?

You need to know just a few commands. g is go, ie continue whatever
you were doing before you entered MacsBug. Only useful if you entered
manually via the Interrupt button or Programmer's Key INIT. es is
escape to shell, which is the Finder, and you use that to quit crashed
programs and return to the rest of your active programs to save data.
Then restart. rs is restart, and you use that whenever you can't escape
the crash at all. ? is help - just type ? and a command for more info
on that command. the escape key shows you the screen just before you
crashed.

Disclaimer - I know this stuff because I use it constantly and also
because I just finished writing a Beating the System column for MacUser
on crashing, and this information (and other good stuff!) is in there.
Of course, since the article is due today, it should appear in the
July, or maybe August issue. :-) I hate lead times...

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1993 15:26:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Macsbug Usefulness to Non-Programmers

[e-mail] writes regarding Macsbug:

>I guess I really have two questions:
>
>1.  Is MacsBug of much use to one who isn't a programmer?

Yes!  Macsbug can be very useful when "bad" things happen to your
Macintosh, meaning those horrible bombs and crashes!  Usually,
Macsbug will be invoked during a crash and you have a chance to
recover (potentially) from what might otherwise be a disastrous
situation (i.e. loss of data).  There are a couple essential com-
mands to know.  These can be typed on the Macsbug "command line"
when you bomb.

Type 'ES' and hit return to attempt to exit the application which
caused the bomb.  This might give you a chance to save documents
>From other still-running applications, although you'll lose any
changes to the document you were using with the crashing application.
You are strongly advised to restart your Mac after such an occurrence
(and after you've had a chance to save other documents) regardless
of whether things seem to be normal when you return to the desktop.
Many times, they are not.

If you return to Macsbug after trying the above, (i.e. you bomb again)
type 'RS' plus enter to restart the Macintosh.   This is not the best
way to recover from a bomb, but if you cannot return to your normal
desktop, it is the only way short of powering down or resetting.

>2.  Does anyone know of a FAQ or manual dealing with MacsBug, which will give
>    me some insights into how to take advantage of the program as a non-
>    programmer?

I'm new to the Net and Info-Mac, so I don't know of any internet-
available documents.  There is at least one book you can purchase at any
decent bookstore (with a nice Macintosh section, of course).  It
is called "Debugging Macintosh Software with Macsbug 6.2".  It is
part of the Inside Out series of books from Addison-Wesley.  Although it
is geared toward developers, you might still find some useful information.
(ISBN 0-201-57049-1)

Hope this helps!

Scott Johnson
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 18:59:45 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Stan Kerr)
Subject: MacX color allocation problems?

I use MacX (Apple's X server) on a IIcx with 8-bit color, and have recently
seen two different client programs have color problems when run with
MacX. In both cases, the programs ran without problems on a different
X server (an RS 6000). I'm posting this to see if others have seen such
problems, and with what clients.

The first failure I saw was with the AXIOM system for symbolic mathematics.
I have a trial copy installed on an RS 6000; when I try to do a simple plot
in a MacX color window, it fails with the following messages:

    > Warning: cannot allocate all the necessary colors - switching to
    monochrome mode
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  91 (X_QueryColors)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0xffffffff
  Serial number of failed request:  236
  Current serial number in output stream:  236

(The plot works in a monochrome window.)

The second failure was seen with a version of PATRAN (a program for creating
and plotting meshes for use in finite element calculations). As soon as
PATRAN was started, it complained about having insufficient colors and failed
to display its graphics window. (I don't have the exact text of the message
at the moment.)

I suppose it's possible the clients are doing something sloppy in their
color handling, but I don't know enough X to determine that.
--

Stan Kerr
Computing & Communications Services Office, U of Illinois/Urbana
Phone: [phone]  Email: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 13:39:36 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Mathimatica [12 x 12]~(-1) Problem - Explanation

There seem to be some misconceptions about the matrix inversion problem with
Mathematica, unfortunately resulting in bad advice.

>> First: DON'T REINSTALL MATHEMATICA! <<

There is a simple explanation for the problem of inverting a symbolic 12x12
matrix. The original posting inquired about _symbolic_ matrix inversion, not a
numerical solution, e.g. using MATLAB. The following illustrates the symbolic
inverse for a general 2x2 matrix with Mathematica:

k=2;
(*   set up a 2x2 matrix   *)
m = Table[e[i,j],{i,1,k},{j,1,k}]

{{e[1, 1], e[1, 2]}, {e[2, 1], e[2, 2]}}

(*   calculate symbolic inverse   *)
Inverse[m]

        e[2, 2]
{{------------------------------------,
  -(e[1, 2] e[2, 1]) + e[1, 1] e[2, 2]

           e[1, 2]
   -(------------------------------------)},
     -(e[1, 2] e[2, 1]) + e[1, 1] e[2, 2]

           e[2, 1]
  {-(------------------------------------),
     -(e[1, 2] e[2, 1]) + e[1, 1] e[2, 2]

         e[1, 1]
   ------------------------------------}}
   -(e[1, 2] e[2, 1]) + e[1, 1] e[2, 2]

It is seen easily that the _analytical_ inverse of a 12x12 matrix can be
expected to be a very large expression. For illustration, I had my Quadra 700
with 20 MB RAM calculate matrix inverses during my lunch (running Mathematica
2.1 in a 19.3 MB memory partition, all extensions off):

Do[
   m = Table[e[i,j],{i,1,n},{j,1,n}];
   Print["N=",n,", time",Timing[im=Inverse[m];],",
     Bytes=",ByteCount[im],", Leaves=",LeafCount[im]];,
{n,2,12}]

N=2, time{0.0166667 Second, Null}, Bytes=1656, Leaves=93
N=3, time{0.116667 Second, Null}, Bytes=13252, Leaves=751
N=4, time{0.8 Second, Null}, Bytes=109920, Leaves=6277
N=5, time{5.51667 Second, Null}, Bytes=1008116, Leaves=57731
N=6, time{48.4333 Second, Null}, Bytes=10060552, Leaves=576907
Internal error: out of memory

This table illustrates:
1. The computation time increases dramatically with matrix size.
2. The size of the resulting algebraic expressions for the inverse roughly
   increase by an order of magnitude when the size of the matrix grows by 1
   (from N=2 to 6). Here Bytes gives the number of Bytes necessary to store
   the atraight expression for the inverse in memory. (the actual memory usage
   is lower because common subexpressions are shared to some extent by
   Mathematica). The number of leaves in the expression tree shows a similar
   behavior.
3. The 7x7 matrix inverse couldn't be calculated at all with my setup which
   isn't exactly entry-level for a Macintosh.

You can _not_ expect to solve a 12x12 symbolic matrix on your average
Macintosh.
If your problem requires to use complicated analytical expressions for each
matrix element rather than a simple symbol as e[i,j] in the example above,
your
Mac is likely to fold trying to invert even very small matrices. Try to get
access to a larger computer, e.g. a powerful workstation or a supercomputer.
If
you are stuck with the Mac, you may get further by first inverting the simple
matrix as shown above and assigning the expressions to the matrix elements
after
the inversion. Only do so for the elements of the inverse which you really
need!
As an alternative, you might think about solving your problem numerically.

Stefan

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 08:04:13 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marcus Edward Hennecke)
Subject: Matrix inversion in Mathematica

In the original post the author asked, why Mathematica took so long to
invert a 12x12 Matrix. I think some people underestimate the problem.
Someone bragged about how Matlab could do it in a fraction of a second.
Yeah right, if it is all numbers it's easy. But this Matrix was to be
inverted *symbolically*. That is much much harder. It is easy to create
problems that way that are really hard to solve and take Mathematica really
long. It would be important to know what the Matrix looked like. I could
check it out on the NeXTs here on campus and see how long they take.

Marcus
[e-mail]

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Date: 05 Feb 1993 15:59:30 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Matrix inversion in Mathematica (A)

>Re: problem inverting a 12 X 12 matrix.
>
>This isn't that kind of big.  Either your freind doesn't have enough RAM
>(most likely),  the program is munged (i.e. try reinstalling) it,
>or something else is fundamentally wrong.

I think there's some confusion here about the difference between inverting
a matrix numerically and inverting it *symbolically*.  If the matrix you
are trying to invert with Mathematica just consists of numbers, then it is
correct that a 12 x 12 matrix is no sweat; there are many efficient
algorithms out there that will invert that baby in order N**2 operations or
less, where in this case N=12.  On the other hand, if the matrix contains
variables and you wish to obtain an algebraic expression for the inverse,
that is *much* harder.  The amount of time and memory required to do all
the symbolic ooperations on each entry increases very rapidly with
increasing N.

To test this theory, I used Theorist (another symbolic math program for the
Mac) to invert some matrices consisting of numbers and of variables.  The
number-matrices invert in the blink of an eye; I couldn't really time them
too accurately with my wristwatch.  On the other hand, when the matrices
were symbolic, I got the following times:

   4 x 4 matrix:  0:20
   5 x 5 matrix:  3:20
   6 x 6 matrix:  (program out of memory after 36:10)

Extrapolating these results, it's not hard to believe that a symbolic 12 x
12 would take the age of the universe to invert :-) !

I hope this clarifies the confusion somewhat.

                       - Greg Lyzenga
                     Harvey Mudd College

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 07:44:28 PST
From: Bill Sawrey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Matrix Inversions in Mathematica

I recently suggested MATLAB as a generic solution for matrix manipula-
tions by a fellow reader, but didn't read his inquiry close enough.
He was interested in using SYMBOLIC vice numerical algebra. My mistake.

"Never mind!" Rosanne(?) Rosanna(?) Danna(?)

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 14:17:06 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Crayne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Network Mystery Problems

One thing you might want to check is the appletalk-imagewriters. If any
of them show a rapidly blinking red error light, they will cause
exactly the symptoms that you describe. Turning one off, and then
turning it back on immediately (before the power lights have faded) will
cause this condition. It's actually pretty cool to watch. If you go into
the chooser, you can watch devices randomly appear & disappear.
I don't know why an Imagewriter should have the ability to toast the
whole network, but it does. That one caused me many a headache, once.

-Pete
[e-mail]

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Date: 05 Feb 1993 13:32:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Dave Truxall <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Claris Translators

[e-mail] (Jeffrey B Kane) writes:

>>Hello, Are there any updates to Claris' translators?  I have MacWrite II and
>>need a translator for Microsoft Works 2.0 or later.  Are the translators
>>availible for anonymous ftp?  Should I just call Claris and see if they can
>>send them to me snail-mail?  Haunting the net is so much more fun
>
>Nope, no new ones yet.  The makers of LapLink have (I believe) tranlators
>for the various buggy Claris XTND filters (Word 5.0 etc) but you need to
>buy the entire $100+ package with all the cross platform translators.

My nephew received ClarisWorks with the Performa he got for Christmas.  It had
a translator for MS Works 2.0, as well as some others that were not included
with MW II.  I suggest you contact Claris.  They do have a support area on
AOL.

       Dave

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 16:37:49 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gaeke)
Subject: Partition doesn't mount... (Q)

One of my Cutting Edge 80 MB drives is partitioned into a 70 MB and a 10
MB partition. Recently I was working on a project on a Fujitsu 80 MB
drive my school owned. I disconnected the Cutting Edge 80 and plugged in
the Fujitsu 80, all right so far... I formatted the Fujitsu 80 and
installed the software I needed, and when I was finished working with
it, I shut down, disconnected the Fujitsu, and re-attached the Cutting
Edge drive. Then I rebooted.

PROBLEM: When the desktop came back up, the 70 MB partition did not
mount. Hard Disk Toolkit tells me that it is still there, but when I
click "Mount", it does not mount.

SPECS: Mac IIci, 8 mb RAM, 80 MB internal hard drive
       two 80 MB Cutting Edge drives, dual SyQuest, printer, scanner,
       etc...
       System 7.0.1 tuned up 1.1.1

It is possible for me to re-format, but I am very reluctant to do this,
because the drive contains several years of work...

To anyone who can help me get this partition back on-line, please help!!

Brian Gaeke <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 14:33:22 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Paul Antaki)
Subject: Partitioning

I'm wondering if it's possible to recover unused space on a hard drive with
the
Apple setup utility. For those of you who know what I'm talking about: I can
select the free area and change the partition type BUT Macintosh does not
appear as one of the partition options I can select.

I don't want to erase the data in the other partitions. I just want to create
a
new volume with what free space is available. Is this possible? Any other
thoughts?

Paul

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 14:12:35 CST
From: [e-mail] (Laura Boynton)
Subject: PB170 Charging & Battery Problem

Hi,

I'm a fairly regular reader of the info-mac, and I am using my fiancee's
account since she is having problems with her PB170.  Last night we tried
starting it from the internal battery and got no response after pressing
the power-on key.

After plugging it in to the wall it started, and the Battery DA showed
the battery to have 3/4 of a full charge.  I tried leaving it plugged in
overnight, but this morning it still wouldn't start from the battery
(nor would it wake up after being put to sleep while plugged in).

I took a look at the connector on the power cable, and noticed that part
of the black plastic surrounding the tip has broken away; and then I
remembered something similar on the info-mac.

So, what's the story?  Do we have a dead battery, a dead power cable, or
both?  Please reply to Laura Boynton ([e-mail]).

Thanks in advance.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 15:30:00 +0000
From: "Bob (R.B.) Summers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Previous distribution problem

My apologies.   In trying to help another user subscribe to Info-Mac I came
across a letter from macmod@Camis...  (April 92) re my initial attempt to
subscribe.  Upon reading that letter, I see that subscription problems are
handled through RiceVM1.

Even better, a comment in the letter mentions that subscribing is a good idea
if 'your site doesn't carry the Usenet group comp.sys.mac.digest.'

Well, I just checked and we DO carry the comp.sys.mac.digest so I will try
that for a while and if OK,  I can UNSUBSCRIBE to avoid duplicating info over
the bandwidth.

Great stuff, this internet.  But soooo confusing...

Again sorry.

Bob Summers  ([e-mail])
Bell-Northern Research / Northern Telecom Ltd
Ottawa, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 23:02:12 EST
From: "Paul D. Bain" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Privacy Rights Information (Q)

I am compiling an article on privacy rights as related to computer and
network usage.  If interested, please send me any information or points of
view that you may possess.  I will make the completed article available on
the sumex-aim.stanford.edu site.

Thank you,
Paul D. Bain
University of Florida
College of Law

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 14:55:44 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Andre Graber)
Subject: publish-subscribe questions

Hello netters,

I am a quit happy user of the publish-subscribe mechanism (word5, MacDras,
Excell).
But I have problems to understand the mechanism when it comes up to
copiing files. It seems that the importing file always stores the absolute
pass the subscribed editions.
When I copy a file with subscribed editions and copy it to another computer,
it will always try to find the harddisk of the original computer.
Is there any way to liste the subscribed editions and to change their path ?
Are there any tools that suport the administration of editions, and files
that subscribe editions.

Yours sincerely

Andre Graber
ETH-Zuerich Switzerland

e-mail:  [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 15:26:24 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Scully is Gone [C]

> Oleg Chaikovsky wrote:

>My wife (who loves PC-clones) told me she heard a report this
>morning on our news radio station in LA that Joh Sculley is
>moving his home to Greenwich, Conn., home of many IBM top brass...
>Is this a bad sign? (only if it's true, I guess).

Scully purchased that house in September, long before IBM fired Akers.
Scully has many homes (including a horse farm in Maine he has has since
the Pepsico days).  Scully's _wife_ wants to live on the East coast.



------------------------------

Date: Thu, 04 Feb 93 19:42:49 CST
From: Reverend John <[e-mail]>
Subject: Silly Sound Request

I was looking at the various sound-playing control panels and started
wondering about a feature that I've never seen.

Would it be possible for such a control panel to play a different
sound depending on which folder you opened or closed? That is, you could
set it to play "Shall we play a game?" when you open the Games folder,
and play "Game over, man!" when you close the Games folder.

All such occurrances would be set up by the user, much like the feature
in SndControl that will play a sound when a certain user-defined
phrase is typed.

Is this dumb or what? Yet I suspect such a feature would get a great
deal of use...just food for thought.

Rev

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Date: 04 Feb 1993 19:00:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: ParaPsykotic <[e-mail]>
Subject: SoftPC Question

I Have a question about the compatibility of SoftPC...

Can it correctly emulate a 286 or XT machine? I ask because my parents
received a complete 286 system, but my father wants to move onto a
MacIntosh Color system, but my mother refuses to give up her WordPerfect...

Does anyone know if it will work correctly?

Or better yet, is there a Mac WordPerfect and if so, how similar is it to the
original?

Thanks...

Tony Bossaller
ParaPsykotic (DSW)
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 02:25:37 GMT
From: [e-mail] ()
Subject: SPELL TEACHING PROGRAMS  (Q)

I would like to find a program (HyperCard or otherwise) that
would help my 13 year old daughter spell better.  Of course
she uses the spell checker, but I'd like something that
quizzes, corrects, gives advice, and is fun (and cheap??).

SHe is in 8th grade and has lots of trouble with some fairly
simple and common words (IMHO).  She is smart in everything
else, but I don't think her teachers stressed spelling enough.

IDEAS?

Louis Janus
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 07:51:08 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Marcus Edward Hennecke)
Subject: Strip accented characters for email? (A)

Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]> says:
>Some may suggest using BBEdit's Extension 827...  I found some problems
>with that--umlautted letters become the base letter followed by an e--but
>since the source code is provided you might be able to modify it to work.

But that is the right way to do it. Too few people know how to transform an
umlaut character into un-umlautted characters: take the base character and
add an e. So it is Muenchen, not Munchen (the latter looks terrible to me:
no Umlaut; the former is ok, since the `e' is a valid replacement for the
umlaut).

Marcus
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:50:20 gmt
From: Mark Elliott <[e-mail]>
Subject: stylewriter grayscale ?

This may be a stupid question, but is it possible to print in grayscale
on a stylewriter using the stylewriter II printer driver ?

also what other advantages (or not) are there to using a stylewriter II
driver on an original stylewriter ?

please reply direct, and i will summarise for the net if nescessary

thanks

Mark Elliott

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 08:28:54 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Dave Martin)
Subject: StyleWriter II drivers

[e-mail] (Patrick D Warn) wrote:
>> 2. Can I buy a Stylewriter II driver without buying a Stylewriter II?
>I'm not positive about this, but I think you can get the driver for free.
>Ask your dealer and check apple.com

No, you cannot get it for free from your dealer, nor is it on FTP.APPLE.COM.

I again called Apple to determine whether they had finally come to a
decision about making the SWII drivers available to SWI owners. The
Customer Service person told me that the SWII drivers were made
specifically for the SWII hardward, which is different from that of the
SWI. He also said that there are no plans to try to translate the
capabilities into a new SWI driver, since there are too many differences.
When I mentioned that many people have successfully used the SWII drivers
with the original StyleWriter, he said that Apple does not support that. I
asked if it would be OK for me to get a copy of the driver from someone who
had bought the SWII so that I would finally get grayscale images to print
on my SWI (something that I had been told the SWI would do before I bought
it...) and he replied that no, the only way to legally obtain and use the
SWII drivers was by purchasing the SWII.

I told him that there were probably a large number of SWI users who would
be willing to pay $10 for a disk with the SWII drivers. The StyleWriter was
a very popular printer -- a lot of people bought them and should not be
tossed aside and forgotten just because a new printer is out to take its
place. The rep again mentioned that using the SWII drivers with the SWI was
not supported by Apple. I told him that I was willing to take the risk --
others probably were as well -- and that the attitude of "we haven't tested
it properly, we won't test it, and even if it works we won't let you have
it" was rather annoying. The "Rest of Us" are starting to get more than a
bit ticked off by Apple's policies of late, primarily the feeling that now,
once a sale has been made, the customer no longer matters. Hate to say it
but Apple seems to be following the path of the Juggernaut -- Microsoft.
What a shame.
-- Dave Martin - TAMU/GERG - [e-mail] - [e-mail] --

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 09:31:38 PST
From: Larry <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7 vs 6.7 (Q)

We run Mac Classics and 512s, no network, at a very small school. What
(if anything) does System 7 do that we need? Would 6.7 be better? (Is
there any such thing as 6.7? I've only heard rumors of it.) How do I get
6.7? Is there any problem installing it if I'm already running 7? Does
6.7 run on 512s with no hard drive? Sorry if these are FAQs. Thanks!

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 13:32:39 PST
From: Suvrit Varshney  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Teachtext & MsWord (Opening PICT Files)

Has anyone ever wondered why Teachtext opens PICT files so
easily (quickly) but why Word takes 1-2 minutes converting
it to something readable ?

Is there any shareware program that opens most common
word processing files and pict files easily, without
converting etc? Just for reading purposes that is.

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Date: 5 Feb 93 08:38:00 CST
From: "JOHN S. CONRADER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Thanks(HPDeskWriter Drivers)

Hi all,
  I just want to say thanks to all that replied about the HP Deskwriter
printer drivers.  I am glad that all of you didn't send me a copy with
your replies.  I had about 10 replies and that sure would have clogged the
old mailbox.  Thanks again for all the help.  Now I can file my taxes.

-John Conrader:)
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 17:41 CDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vax/VMS help

I have two programs, mcvert and xbin-to-binary.shar, and I'm having some
trouble
 with them. I was able to 'unshar' them and ended up with files with a '.c'
 endi
ng and thought that I just had to enter the command 'cc mcvert.c' at the '$'
pro
mpt on my VAX, but it doesn't work. Any ideas?

Also, do programs that are designed for UNIX work on a VAX if they are
compiled
on the VAX. And lastly, what is the purpose of the 'MakeFile' files that are
inc
luded with the above programs.

Thanks for any help.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 10:27:59 -0500
From: Ed Ver Hoef <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where is ad updater? (Q)

I must admit to a little frustration.  In a recent digest I read about the
availability of the After Dark updater (util/ad/after-dark-20x-updater).
When I tried to download it, I couldnUt find the file in the AD folder under
UTIL.  I figured some problem had been found and the file deleted
accordingly.  Then, in subsequent digests I found people saying they had
downloaded the file and relating their experiences with it.  I tried again to
find the file with the same disappointing results.  I have been using the
UMinn Gopher for downloading.  On the off chance that Gopher was
having some problem, I tried direct ftp to sumex but it was no better.
Does anybody have any idea whatUs happening?

Ed Ver Hoef

------------------------------

Date: 05 Feb 93 08:52:36 EST
From: Mark Heard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Why you need an FPU

The use/need for an FPU (aka 'math co-coprocessor' in DOS lingo) has been
discussed from time to time here before -- especially since Apple seems to be
cheerfully introducing models without them at more regular intervals -- and
I'd like to add a couple of sheckels to the bill...

The need for an FPU seems to be growing, not from just CADD and spreadsheet
programs (altho they undoubtably draw the *most* benefit from the added
horsepower), but in the OS itself.  If you use outline fonts, drawing packages
with scalable objects, or like to have the folder size or disk info in the
header of your windows, you're using floating point math functions and can
benefit from the FPU. (Typical performance gains for _any_ math functions done
in an FPU vs the main CPU range from 100-200% and up...). The FPU doesn't just
sit around waiting on an arctan or log function to be called for, it's in
there banging away on anything the main CPU can throw it - providing, of
course, that the OS and/or apps are written to look for and use the FPU (which
Apple has supposedly built into the Mac developemnt environment since the mean
old days of the first Mac II).

Also, one of the main performance gains of the 68040 and 80486 is supposedly
>From having the FPU on the same chip at the CPU with no bus delays required
in
passing data to and fro.  It seems to me that if one craved the kind of power
these CPUs provide, one would want to get _all_ the benefits the designers
intended... and not the "seconds" from the manufacturing line that couldn't
pass the FPU tests (my opinion, folks).

The moral of the story: you'll *never* regret having the FPU on hand and will
likely appreciate having one around even if all you do is open windows or
print documents.  Ironically, to appear more competitive with the DOS clones
(whose users are largely still struggling with the concept of proportional
fonts and using rulers and tabs to format rather than 'manually' spacing),
Apple has opted to configure their base machine like the Win/DOS platforms --
even tho Apple's OS ends up making better use of the FPU! Fortunately, adding
this goodie is pretty easy for most folks.

Mark Heard

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 15:36:08 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: WorldScript?? [A]

Todd Breslow <[e-mail]> writes:

> I distinctly remember reading in IM several months ago that
> someone was playing with one of the scripts for WorldScript
> (I believe it was the Thai script). I assumed that the script
> was taken off the develop CD but, low-and-behold, there aren't
> any such scripts on the Nov/Dec CD (at least none that I can
> find).
> The question is, has anyone actually seen the worldscript scripts?

Yes, such scripts do exist.  They were on the "Developer CD_ROM"
(the one sent out to Apple Certified Developers), _not_ on the
"d e v e l o p" CD_ROM (available to one and all from APDA).

They are not being sold to the general public at this time.

> I would very much appreciate it if someone who knew what was
> going on here would let me know what worldscript's status is.
> For the record, I'm interested in the Russian script and Chinese
> localization.

Well, that's certainly a good question.  According to an article
in this week's MacLeak, Apple is moving closer to releasing the
Japanese (Kanji) module in the US in March.  The package would
include the Koteri input method, and two TrueType Kanji fonts.

There are no current plans to release any other WorldScript modules
in the US.

All is not lost, however: for Chinese, there is the ChineseTalk
module for System 7.0/7.0.1 (write to [e-mail] for
details).

I don't think there is a WorldScript module for Russian, since that
only requires a Cyrillic font and keymap.

Hope This Helps.




------------------------------

Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 15:23:59 CST
From: "Ray Carlson            252-5805" <[e-mail]>

SUBJ: Network Installer Version 1.3 Problem

I have installed this on a MAC II, MAC IIx, and MAC IIfx without any
problems.
However, I have run in to one problem with a MAC Plus.
Environment: MAC Plus, 4M memory, system 7.0.1 tuned:
After installing Appletalk 58, the Chooser would take an very long time to
find the various printers, Appleshare would take a long time to find various
MACs, and trying to print something would result in printer not found most
of the time.  Occassionally, the printer would be found and the job would
print.  Any ideas?  Or is Appletalk 58 not to be used on a MAC Plus.

A side note: MacTCP 1.1.1 Appletalk configuration runs fine on the MAC Plus.

Thanks for any help.   [e-mail]

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